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PostSubject: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime11/9/2009, 13:18

easy for me top 5 players of CTR Icon_smile

1. luca
2. Crash68
3. Qwerty
4. SamBennettctr top 5 players of CTR Icon_razz
5. Simo95ctr

Djamnctr could be in but has no proofs/videos


in no particular order
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime11/9/2009, 14:13

so basically your saying you don't like to be 6th like now ? top 5 players of CTR 992959
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 04:01

Bennettctr wrote:

2. Crash68
3. Qwerty

OMG ? BETTER THAN QWERTY ??? top 5 players of CTR Icon_porc top 5 players of CTR Icon_porc
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 04:53

@ alpha: for me the best players are to be judged by total times.

xQwertyArgentina38'47''82
1luca103italy38'48''31
2djanmfctrBrasil38'56''72
3crash68France39'04''66
4sambennettctrEngland39'05''31
5oxide the bestItalia39'05''56


but djanmctr has little proofs, so oxide the best instead ;D


@ tom: i said in no particular order, but qwerty has better times, but for me you have most potential top 5 players of CTR Icon_lol
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 05:33

@sam
do u think that have or not have proofs is the condition to determinate a faker, and in this case i agree, but i don't understand why u say that the total times' rank is also the top faker's rank??
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those players would be shit without arsene xD Cool
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 11:28

average finish is the best ranking for me because there is no advantage for someone good in laps (like srpr) or courses (like total times). Also there are unfair advantages like BTF who takes 2 secs on everybody in total times, in other terms, some courses are way more important than others in total time (crash cove isn't important for instance). But even in AF I think you're 5th, c68 is 6th xD so sorry the post above was a mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 11:35

SRPR says the powerlevel of each player lengua
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 14:30

for me is total times for sure...
average finish is stupid coz a player could be 1st in all tracks but 50th in just one track, and overall is 20th

whereas total times shows how fast the player is overall, in lap or course

for e.g. if pardiez came 5th in each course, but qwerty came 1st in all, but once 50th, pardiez would statisticly be better than qwerty but really is not.

or a player like BTF could get a lucky lap like in HAS and ruin someones average finish maing them bad


another exmaple would be. if England lose 10 games but Rooney scores 12, and Brazil win every game but Ronaldinho scores 4, Brazil is better, but Rooney is better

NOt the best example Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime12/9/2009, 16:56

Bennettctr wrote:
for me is total times for sure...
average finish is stupid coz a player could be 1st in all tracks but 50th in just one track, and overall is 20th

whereas total times shows how fast the player is overall, in lap or course

for e.g. if pardiez came 5th in each course, but qwerty came 1st in all, but once 50th, pardiez would statisticly be better than qwerty but really is not.

or a player like BTF could get a lucky lap like in HAS and ruin someones average finish maing them bad


another exmaple would be. if England lose 10 games but Rooney scores 12, and Brazil win every game but Ronaldinho scores 4, Brazil is better, but Rooney is better

NOt the best example top 5 players of CTR Icon_biggrin

sorry to contradict you but in the case you mentionned pardiez wouldn't beat qwerty :

(1*35 + 50*1)/36 = 85/36 = app. 2.35x AF
(5*36)/36 = 180/36 = 5.000 AF

Also the player making a lucky lap like you say will only become 1st at world and that 1 little position to all people who beated him before. In total time, he will take 1-2-3 seconds and blast everybody off. You ca't make better than 1st in AF, but you can cut as big an amount of time you want in total time.

Now I show you the opposite example : LinkZer is a very good players, but slide coliseum is his weakness. He is good in AF, coz slide is only taking him like 40ish places, so maybe 1 position in AF, but in total times he lose at least 7-8 seconds, which is worse.

For your last example, I just think it's irrelevant coz we're not talking about football, if you wanted to mention a sport you could have chosen F1, where the ranking is made from the average position of each racer in each event, and NOT in total times(otherwîse a crash would be = to a whole season lost).

the exception you could find is of course cyclism, where a crash = end of the run, but this is true that AF doesn't mean anything in this case, because of the massive sprints arrivals and everybody being in the same second. But that's not the case in CTR, tied players are rare, so AF is valid.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime13/9/2009, 05:09

hmmmmmm, maybe your right.

to give a better example top 5 players of CTR Icon_biggrin = if i played in nitro cup against you, and i came 1st 8th, 1st and 1st. and you came 4th , 3rd, 4th, and 2nd, i would win. even if i got 9 minutes on one track. and you beat me overall in time

so i guess your right, AF is better. top 5 players of CTR Icon_biggrin Alapha wins 1-0 ........ for now, bring on next debate LoL

Edit: but , e.g. oxide the best has bad time 1.53.75 in mystery caves, but because not many people are good here he is still 6th, so his AF stays good, but this time is worth 11th place


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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime13/9/2009, 11:39

I hate Average Finish, coz I'm bad in Roo tubes and some others times, I prefer SR:PR Very Happy
But is better to compare players per track : a player can be good in crash cove but not in tiny arena for example.
So I can say : I'm good in Polar Pass, but not in Roo tubes xD
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime13/9/2009, 17:25

While a player is Titan A as maximum, we can determinate where is good and where is bad, completely sure.

When someone becomes GOD we need some stadistic times system to determinate where he's good and where's bad.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime13/9/2009, 19:07

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While a player is Titan A as maximum, we can determinate where is good and where is bad, completely sure.

When someone becomes GOD we need some stadistic times system to determinate where he's good and where's bad.

problem with Average rANK IS THAT IT'S A VERY ACCURATE STANDARD (sorry for caps) as soon as it's created, but when the times and the techniques evolve, it becomes more and more unsignificant. Maybe if ARR was changed monthly it would be the best one but it would be unacceptable xD
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime13/9/2009, 22:02

Now I'm agree with update the standards. But the only problem is that old players will look like noobs. So i would suggest that updated standards will be activated only to active players.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 08:01

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Now I'm agree with update the standards. But the only problem is that old players will look like noobs. So i would suggest that updated standards will be activated only to active players.

they are noobs
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 11:46

the GOD standard should be changed, some GOD's are bad...... no CTR player is at a GOD standard

foe me, should be:

CC 1.18.75/25.40
RT 1.10.90/22.40
CP 1.14.90/23.95
TT 1.29.00/28.50
MC 1.52.80/36.80
SS 1.39.00/32.35
BB 1.07.90/21.80
DC 1.24.00/23.10
PP 1.12.20/22.60
DM 1.13.00/23.20
PP 1.57.80/38.00
CC 2.02.50/ 39.25
TA 2.56.10/57.90
HAS 1.52.00/32.45 the BTF SC so lucky, so not count
N.gin labs 2.07.60/41.10
OS 1.57.60/38.55
SC 1.30.35/29.50
TT 1.25.80/ 27.55

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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 12:40

Bennettctr wrote:
the GOD standard should be changed, some GOD's are bad...... no CTR player is at a GOD standard

foe me, should be:

CC 1.18.75/25.40
RT 1.10.90/22.40
CP 1.14.90/23.95
TT 1.29.00/28.50
MC 1.52.80/36.80
SS 1.39.00/32.35
BB 1.07.90/21.80
DC 1.24.00/23.10
PP 1.12.20/22.60
DM 1.13.00/23.20
PP 1.57.80/38.00
CC 2.02.50/ 39.25
TA 2.56.10/57.90
HAS 1.52.00/32.45 the BTF SC so lucky, so not count
N.gin labs 2.07.60/41.10
OS 1.57.60/38.55
SC 1.30.35/29.50
TT 1.25.80/ 27.55

and this is being kind top 5 players of CTR Icon_biggrin

too kind... and god standards aren't meant to be kind. They're meant to be almost impossible.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 13:04

Bennettctr wrote:
the GOD standard should be changed, some GOD's are bad...... no CTR player is at a GOD standard

foe me, should be:

CC 1.18.75/25.40
RT 1.10.90/22.40
CP 1.14.90/23.95
TT 1.29.00/28.50
MC 1.52.80/36.80
SS 1.39.00/32.35
BB 1.07.90/21.80
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PP 1.12.20/22.60
DM 1.13.00/23.20
PP 1.57.80/38.00
CC 2.02.50/ 39.25
TA 2.56.10/57.90
HAS 1.52.00/32.45 the BTF SC so lucky, so not count
N.gin labs 2.07.60/41.10
OS 1.57.60/38.55
SC 1.30.35/29.50
TT 1.25.80/ 27.55

and this is being kind Very Happy

OMG you're crazy for turbo track ?? sub 1'26 is GOD xD
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2.07.60 top 5 players of CTR Icon_eek

Tiger Temple must be 1:28:30 GOD now top 5 players of CTR Icon_razz , 1:27:xx very possible.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 15:49

@tom: i have done 1.25.xx in turbo track 10 + times. is easy

@qwerty: 2.07.60 easy, you can easy!, 1.28.30 GOD standard....no way, this means i want 1.25.45 GOD standard on Turbo track Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 18:41

alpha-plus wrote:
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Now I'm agree with update the standards. But the only problem is that old players will look like noobs. So i would suggest that updated standards will be activated only to active players.

they are noobs

At those times, you would were a totally shit. Respect 'em.

There are 2 solutions: Update/change the current standards OR add/make new standards.
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LinkZer wrote:
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Now I'm agree with update the standards. But the only problem is that old players will look like noobs. So i would suggest that updated standards will be activated only to active players.

they are noobs

At those times, you would were a totally shit. Respect 'em.

There are 2 solutions: Update/change the current standards OR add/make new standards.

I don't think I would have been a total shit and actually we should do both the things you suggested.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 19:00

Seeing your current potential, I can guess 90% right what level would you had at those times. But let's stop to talk 'bout dat. Updating of standards is more important.
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PostSubject: Re: top 5 players of CTR   top 5 players of CTR Icon_minitime14/9/2009, 19:09

I dont think we must change standards, but add a new standard, better than GOD.
Become GOD is the objective of all (or almost all...) players of CTR : If they see that GOD is impossible to reach, they will never continue to play.
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