HO HO HO! 2008

mmm you are very strange alpha, if u are not a atheist, so u believe in one God, but if u believe that there is some God why u blame him? he's god he see everything

anyway i wanna put end to this conversation, was great but can't continue

look you don't know me and my beliefs like I said before, and everything I say here is for the purpose of conversation.

HO HO HO 2008 4ever

Long live to SantaTeamClaussing!

alpha-plus wrote:

look you don't know me and my beliefs like I said before, and everything I say here is for the purpose of conversation.

HO HO HO 2008 4ever

of course i don't know anything about your beliefs, also don't cares me , i'm really full of hohoho 2008

Davidctr72 wrote:

alpha-plus wrote:

look you don't know me and my beliefs like I said before, and everything I say here is for the purpose of conversation.

HO HO HO 2008 4ever

of course i don't know anything about your beliefs, also don't cares me , i'm really full of hohoho 2008

Dont say that! HO HO HO! 2008 must have 100 pages at least!

yep indeed.

I've seen this advert on TV though, that made a pretty strong impression on me.

It said that the Dudeism was the best religion.

I'm seriously considering converting to it.

Basically, it involves living your life as a "dude". Really sounds cool.

My religion and my GOD is the LOVE!!!

the one thing that really pisses me off about religion (any religion really, but seems in my life to be most present in christians) is that people always try to convert you or talk about their religion to you and that most religions have a set of rules that people are meant to follow, surely god would want you to learn your own mistakes and become a better person through that way rather than asking you to follow rules about the kind of person you should be.
sorry if this didnt make sense, im tired and stoned but makes for great discussion, at least with myself anyway
off to look at pretty swirling colours... i want this guy but without the horns and angry eyebrows, he suits me best
does anyone have an itouch/iphone?
best app ever is called spawn, so great to look at, oohh pretty

Jacob Stirling wrote:

the one thing that really pisses me off about religion (any religion really, but seems in my life to be most present in christians) is that people always try to convert you or talk about their religion to you and that most religions have a set of rules that people are meant to follow, surely god would want you to learn your own mistakes and become a better person through that way rather than asking you to follow rules about the kind of person you should be.
sorry if this didnt make sense, im tired and stoned but makes for great discussion, at least with myself anyway
off to look at pretty swirling colours... i want this guy but without the horns and angry eyebrows, he suits me best
does anyone have an itouch/iphone?
best app ever is called spawn, so great to look at, oohh pretty

Geez it's been a while since I posted here. jeje

Pretty colors Jacob? Are you drunk when you posted this?

Whatever case was.........Pretty colors!

Let's start the discution?

sure.

what's your views on religion one year after, amarat ?

I am a fervent Pastafarian.

In my first post on this topic, I was sort of agnostic.
Now, I am atheist and skeptical, but I use satanic terms (sometimes) for provocate or for joke.

Well, I believe that christianism and islamism are the dumbest religions on the earth. Just 1% pf the religious people have good arguments, but they still don't survive after some analysis.

God?
Hum, first of all, we have to define what "God" means. A good definition should be great!

A player who reached the highest standards in all tracks in ctr4ever ?

yeah that'll be a god jejejeje

So.....I'm GOD if I reach highest standard in ctr4ever?

Well......We have lots of GODs then hahaha

So God exists, by this definition.
Many Gods, unless if they are fakers.
At least, I did search God standart...

Any other definition of God?

Amaraticando wrote:

So God exists, by this definition.
Many Gods, unless if they are fakers.
At least, I did search God standart...

Any other definition of God?

Fakers? Where???

There'll be NO FAKE GOD IN CTR4EVER!!!!!!

..........Am I turning into Amaraticando????????????????

No! That's false! TorturerVladimir is NOT ARAMATICANDO CLONE!!!!!!!!!!

God, who is God?

Well God must be the most powerfull entity on this universe, of course if he exists, he is the one that created the universe, and all the planets and galaxies, he was the one that created the life, actually some scientifics had accepted that the life couldn't created with itself, or the ADN, i don't remember well... anyway i'm totally sure that SOMEONE created the universe, impossible by the chance, something with inteligence, the question is

Is he still alive? i think yes, something so powerfull can't die, i mean he is God

Davidctr72 wrote:

God, who is God?

Well God must be the most powerfull entity on this universe, of course if he exists, he is the one that created the universe, and all the planets and galaxies, he was the one that created the life, actually some scientifics had accepted that the life couldn't created with itself, or the ADN, i don't remember well... anyway i'm totally sure that SOMEONE created the universe, impossible by the chance, something with inteligence, the question is

Is he still alive? i think yes, something so powerfull can't die, i mean he is God

But how and where was he born?

well if he is God he created with himself, or he exists since always, if not he wouldn't be god

where? how can somebody answer that?

Davidctr72 wrote:

well if he is God he created with himself, or he exists since always, if not he wouldn't be god

where? how can somebody answer that?

See? We have NO proof on how God existed!

that's obvious, we haven't and maybe we will never have a proof about how God was created, but we have a lot of proofs about his existence

Davidctr72 wrote:

that's obvious, we haven't and maybe we will never have a proof about how God was created, but we have a lot of proofs about his existence

Proof? No we don't have proof

But we have theories!

we have theories about everything

and we have proofs about the existence of God

Davidctr72 wrote:

we have theories about everything

and we have proofs about the existence of God

Proof? We don't have any

Theories? You bet we do

Davidctr72 wrote:

God, who is God?

Well God must be the most powerfull entity on this universe, of course if he exists, he is the one that created the universe, and all the planets and galaxies, he was the one that created the life, actually some scientifics had accepted that the life couldn't created with itself, or the ADN, i don't remember well... anyway i'm totally sure that SOMEONE created the universe, impossible by the chance, something with inteligence, the question is

Is he still alive? i think yes, something so powerfull can't die, i mean he is God

1) If God is the most powerful entity of the Universe, so he surely exist, if the Universe has a finite number of beings. But, the usual difinition of God includes more than this. He/She is supposed to have infinite power, to be almighty, to have omniscience and sometimes omnipresence.
2) The galaxies and planets don't need God to exist. They are being born all the time. When a star explodes, new planets or stars can be born. Galaxies are a little more complex, but still doesn't need God.
3) Life doesn't need God to exist. Life appeared on earth billions years ago. Extremely simple life forms. Evolution explains how those simple life forms became complex. Evolution has many proofs. But the origin of life is hard to test.
4) The origin of inteligence, better, the origin of conscience is a good point for the theist/deist side. I am unable to explain this, but remember the Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.

Davidctr72 wrote:

well if he is God he created with himself, or he exists since always, if not he wouldn't be god

where? how can somebody answer that?

If God exist(ed), he didn't create himself. It is impossible, cause and effect's axioms are violated. So, God should have to be eternal or created by natural processes. But if God is the creator, so he has to be eternal. But I can say that Universe is eternal too. That is the correct thing, according to Physics.

Davidctr72 wrote:

that's obvious, we haven't and maybe we will never have a proof about how God was created, but we have a lot of proofs about his existence

where?