HO HO HO! 2008

V4E:

I know the difference between Marias.

I agree, there can't be a beginning of God. The only beginning there is must be the beginning of this world. The world God created with time.

A soul is timeless. So it's the same form that God is. They're not "made of" anything. And with all due respect, I personally consider "Why did God create the universe?" a little stupid question. How can we know why he created us?

Alpha:

Yes, I also think that the life on this planet and the universe is way too organized to have been created by chance! Luck can't do this.

Well I don't know about that free state of mind, because there is always either the good or the bad affecting our minds.

About other planets, we just know a little % of the universe, and we already found some forms of life, tough they're just bacterial, so we can't know. If we were born on Vega XVII we would have asked the same questions. We are lucky. Or maybe not... And I don't understand why shouldn't we try to understand WHY THE HELL did God created all that. BTWrayder, if souls are like God in the form, hell can't exist cos it's impossible to punish a thing with no form. Also I don't understand why should I be satisfied in watching God for the eternity (that's the paradise of a lot of people). Is it a mega-TV screen? Can I watch Inuyasha on God channel?

By all means, try to understand why God created this all. I'm just saying that obviously you'll never getting an answer to that. Eternity is the world of God, it's a world. You don't actually stare at God all the time. In a world you can do all kinds of things. And about the souls. Of course you can not punish a soul with a guillotine! At least not with one made of wood and steel. But if the soul is in some form, then obviously there can be all sorts of other things in THE form.

Dober wrote:

lepetitkeltois wrote:

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the answer to every questions ever??

exactly

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Is it a mega-TV screen? Can I watch Inuyasha on God channel?

Stop this discution!

If God exists, he can't kill our sorrow...

Amaraticando wrote:

Stop this discution!

If God exists, he can't kill our sorrow...

How true this is. I don't believe in him, but it wouldn't even make a difference to me right now if I did. He can't kill my pain, and he can't fix me or save me. Maybe I'm a bad person and should feel hurt, but God is pointless to me if he's here. If believing in him meant I could be okay, then I would. But it won't...
God sucks?

I feel like David is alone in this battle

Ichbinscissors61 wrote:

Amaraticando wrote:

Stop this discution!

If God exists, he can't kill our sorrow...

How true this is. I don't believe in him, but it wouldn't even make a difference to me right now if I did. He can't kill my pain, and he can't fix me or save me. Maybe I'm a bad person and should feel hurt, but God is pointless to me if he's here. If believing in him meant I could be okay, then I would. But it won't...
God sucks?

Amaral: What's wrong with this discussion, I like it. : )

Ich: Why do you think that if there is God he couldn't fix or save you? Well, doesn't matter if you know he's not able to cure you...

For Rento:
If souls have a form, u can't say that they've the same form of god, no?
Also if they have a form they can't be transported in God's world...
To have a good idea of the hell, watch Hellraiser I

God = placebo. What V4E said is so true. People need some security in their lonely life, the sensation that somebody cares about them. hehehe, but only weak people not confident in themselves believe in God. Most of those are sheeps.

Yes, you're right, only weak people believe in God. I wouldn't believe in God either if I thought I could live forever (and not die forever) without believing in him.

[alpha again took the edit button for a quote button, so his message is inside Rento's one :

it's nothing to do about God if you believe in him. It's about a need for safe things. God will always be here, the christian morality, the world which was created by someone and we can tell who it is. Everything has a sense thanks to God, the Sense-Machine ! If you need some sense to make a life you're weak. ]

Rento wrote:

Yes, I also think that the life on this planet and the universe is way too organized to have been created by chance! Luck can't do this

I always said that to V4E

U don't stand me again v4e, I said that the time doesn't exist, so if it doesn't exist, God didn't created it, cos it doesn't exist, the time is just a creation of the man, look:
imagine a place where there is nOthing in movement, like a desert or a planet without life, well where is the time there?

Then the souls doesn't have form and aren't liquid, or solid, or plasmas, or of gas, u take much importance of the science, when we talk of God i think the science doesn't have importance

And i don't agree with u Rento when u said that the heaven is here in tha planet, so u think that we live all our life in the earth and when we die we still in the earth??? well i don't think that, i think that here in the Earth are the hell, maybe u live beautifull times here but also u live horrible times, and nO v4e, the heaven it's nOt see a super tv. channel of God , i think the heaven is a place where u nOt have more preocupations, and u are in peace with yourself, well i prefer the heaven that be tortured in the hell, so it's suficient

i can't believe there is nOt a place where the murders or rapers must pages all the things they have done, it's just unfair. so 4 that i believe in the heaven and in the hell, maybe here is the hell, maybe the heaven is a a planet or is in another dimensions, WE WILL NEVER KNOW THAT, NEVER, UNTILL WE WILL DIE. maybe i am wrong and God are dead but i am totally sure he existed, but 4 me he is alive, and if he is alife he has another things more importants to do :p
And u don't need to be a week person for believe in God, actors believe in God football players believe in God (especially the brazilian ones) i saw in the World championship of the FIFA that almost all the players after make a goal they made the cruz signal, i can say it in english but u know what i mean, so u can't say that just week people believe in God

This conversation will never end?? XD

haha most people are weak, but in this context the word "weak" has a particular signification which you don't understand. And football players suck, they have no brain, and most famous actors are getting crazy when they become famous. I totally don't have any respect for that kind of people.

Weak people are who doesn't think to be weak.
BTWrayder I don't understand how can u find peace, how can u feel something, if u have no form.

There are weak and weak. ^^

Some weak people need God to feel happy, others don't

Live in a world without God is a too scary perspective isn't it. Would all our bad actions be left unpunished ? Would the raper and serial killer escape from divine justice ? Yes

I know what do u mean with "weak" persons man -___- do u think that i thougth that weak are the people very thin and 4 that i put as example the football players??? xDDD nO i know what u mean with "weak"

BTWrayder LinkZer has reason i am alone in this fucking conversation i won't continue oK?? for me God existed, God exists and God will always exists ^^

I see angels burning, falling down in ruins
Looking down I see me, I'm my own enemy.

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Weak people are who doesn't think to be weak.

So... You are weak because you think you aren't weak? BTWrayder, if you think you're weak is b'coz you really are weak.

Sometimes you're very confuse man.

I try to confuse u
BTWrayder doesn't matter, I agree with David. This topic went definitely on too much... About weakness, u can understand my sentence in a lot of different ways

Not b'coz it haven't sense.

BTWrayder, keep posting and talking

If God exists, he is surely, different from how the biblle says...

If God exists, his classmates must have laughed a lot about his name. God... Nobody has that kind of name, it's like you were called, I dunno, ... Sex ? Maybe is it why he left the human world, because they were too mean with him ?

God exists or not?